Jedi are Responsible for their own downfall?

[No time for Dancing ~Rich~]

There is a populor theory that the Jedi Order doomed itself, by its unwillingness to see the corruption of the senate

your views?

[Jennski]

I think it's possible.

By the time they did realize it...it was too late.

I think the big mistake was trusting a bunch of clones though. 'Cause all you have to do is control one of them and you'd control them all. And the wrong person got in control of the clones.

I probably have more to say on this when my head stops hurting. ;)

[RN4CHRIST]

Yes, I think that they had high ideals, but in the end, they let those ideals blind them to the truth that was going on around them. By the time they realized the desperate plight they were in it was too late, they were doomed. Now the reborn order, under Luke and Leia has the potential to overcome some of the short falls of the old order.

[No time for Dancing ~Rich~]

True in Regards to the Clones'

some say Yoda designed Order 66 as he was once commander over the entire clone army, I can't see him doing such

And in regards to luke and leia, yes they have hope, except currently they seem blind to the fact Jacen solo is evil!

They want to promote him to a Jedi master, and he is a fully trained Sith Lord!"

[Davidnic]

Can't see that with Yoda. I personally feel the series has gone a bit off track with the recent extended universe novels. But who knows...until they wrap up a story arc you never know.

[Davidnic]

I agree a bit there. I kind of like how Timothy Zahn shows what some of the people thought of the Jedi Order in Survivors Quest. That was when the one Character (I can't remember his name) is telling Luke how his sister going to be a jedi destroyed (he felt) his family. And that the Jedi were removed and distant from the people they should protect.

It was an issue of stagnancy and viewing people in theory rather than in person. Same mindset that sowed the seeds for the fall of the order.

[No time for Dancing ~Rich~]

That was a great book yes.

I'm currently working my way through NJO
I'm finding the way Jedi are reacting to the Vong interesting, their self destructive view of defense only is becoming their doom